Do you need a social security number to set up a trust fund

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Revocable trusts are a very popular and useful estate planning tool. But the trust will be ineffective if you do not actually place your assets in the trust.

Revocable trusts are an effective way to avoid probate and provide for asset management in the event of incapacity. In addition, revocable trusts — sometimes called “living” trusts — are incredibly flexible and can achieve many other goals, including long-term care and asset-protection planning. 

However, you can’t take advantage of what the trust has to offer if you don’t place your assets into it. If you don’t fund the trust, your assets may have to go through a costly probate proceeding or be distributed to beneficiaries you did not intend. Not funding your trust can undermine your whole estate plan. 

To transfer assets to the trust, whether real estate, bank accounts, or investment accounts, you need to retitle the assets in the name of the trust. To place bank and investment accounts into your trust, you need to retitle them as follows: “[your name and co-trustee’s name] as Trustees of [trust name] Revocable Trust created by agreement dated [date].” Depending on the institution, you might be able to change the name on an existing account. Otherwise you will need to open a new account in the name of the trust and then transfer the funds. The financial institution will probably require a copy of the trust, or at least of the first page and the signature page, as well as signatures of all the trustees. As long as you are serving as your own trustee or co-trustee, you can use your Social Security number for the trust. If you are not a trustee, the trust will have to obtain a separate tax identification number and file a separate 1041 tax return each year. You will still be taxed on all of the income and the trust will pay no separate tax.

If you are placing real estate into the trust, you should consult with your attorney to ensure it is done correctly. You should also consult with your attorney before placing life insurance or annuities into a revocable trust or before naming the trust as the beneficiary of your IRAs or 401(k) because that could have tax consequence. Your attorney will also make certain the trust’s provisions reflect the current state of the law.

Once your trust is fully funded, don’t forget about it. When you acquire new assets, do not forget to add them to the trust. You should review your trust annually to make sure everything is titled properly. 

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“The bank says I need to go get an EIN to put my accounts into my trust. Is that true? What is an EIN?”

One of the most common reasons our clients call us is to ask us what their bank is telling them to do in plain English, especially when it comes to putting their accounts into their trust. A common occurrence is when a bank teller tells our clients that they can no longer use their social security numbers on their bank accounts if they put the account under the name of their trust.

The short explanation is no, you can still use your personal SSN on a bank account under the name of your revocable living trust, just as you would an account under your name individually.

If you would like to know more details, we’ll start with what is an EIN or a TIN. These are numbers, assigned by the IRS, to entities for tax reporting reasons. An EIN means Employer Identification Number and TIN means Tax Identification Number. Sometimes they are referred to as Federal Tax ID numbers. Before your eyes glaze over, all you need to know is that the process for acquiring each is the same so, in essence, they are all the same thing to the taxpayer. Thus, when we refer to an EIN or TIN or Federal Tax ID, we mean the same thing.

Regarding using an EIN to open a bank account rather than your SSN, that is good advice, in the case of an irrevocable trust, rather than a revocable one. For example, if you were to open an account for an irrevocable trust (such as a Special Needs Trust), then the Trustee would apply for and receive an EIN from the IRS so that an account can be opened. However, if your trust is revocable (well drafted trusts will plainly state this in the body of the document), the IRS specifically does not want to issue an EIN to a revocable living trust when the trustor (maker of the trust) is, or trustors are, still living. Trustors are also known as Grantors.

Thus, in the case of an individual with a trust opening a bank account under their trust, they may still use their own SSN. If the trust has multiple trustors (such as a married couple), either party’s SSN may be used to open the account. The trust is still you and the assets are still yours. This is simply a new way by which you hold your assets.

The above is confirmed here, which is a third-party designee to assist people with obtaining an EIN:

"A revocable living trust does not typically need its own Tax Identification Number (TIN) while the grantor is still alive. Instead, the grantor’s social security number is used for tax purposes. For example, if someone establishes a living trust and then opens an investment account under the name of the trust, the account will use the grantor’s social security number while the grantor is alive."

Please note that as that is a third-party designee, we do not recommend the above website be used for obtaining an EIN. For safety and security, only use the IRS’s own online system, located here, should you need to obtain an EIN. Sensitive information will need to be provided to the IRS in order to be assigned an EIN.

In summary, if your trust is revocable, there is no need to acquire an EIN in order to open or transfer an existing bank account into the name of your trust. If you do need an EIN for an irrevocable trust, then one may be acquired online, through the IRS, for free.

If you have any questions regarding revocable or irrevocable trusts, or would like more information about the process of applying for an EIN from the IRS, please feel free to contact us here or call us at 909-307-6282.

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